Daily WHUFC News - 6th November 2017

Cresswell: We weren't good enough against Liverpool
WHUFC.com

Aaron Cresswell has admitted the West Ham United players weren't good enough during the 4-1 loss to Liverpool, and promised fans the team would work to resolve their issues during the international break. Goals from Mohamed Salah, Joel Matip and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain gave Liverpool the win against the Hammers at London Stadium, who scored to make it 2-1 through Manuel Lanzini in the second period. Cresswell believes he and his teammates failed to give an accurate representation of their ability in the match and insists only they can fix the problems that the team showed against the Reds. "We are gutted," Cresswell said. "It's hard to take. We know it's not good enough and it's only us that can get us out of it. "We're going to have to work hard now. We've got a two-week break, and we've got to put it right on the training ground and turn it around quickly."

Liverpool's opening goal came just over twenty minutes into the match, after the away side countered from a West Ham corner. Cresswell believes that, up until that point, the Hammers had been performing decently but let themselves down when it came to defending against Liverpool's quick counter. With the second goal coming not too long after, the 27-year-old concedes it was always going to be tricky to win the game from 2-0 down. He added: "I thought we started quite well. We had a corner and then they break, and before I know it I've got both Mane and Salah. It's a sloppy goal to give away and of course the second one was a set-piece. "They've got some fantastic players, especially on the break. We knew that was going to happen. It's hard to come back."

The defender believes he and his teammates recognise they weren't good enough against Liverpool and, despite the quality the side possess on paper, the team needs to improve and show how good they truly are. Cresswell said: "These times are difficult. Every player knows we've not been good enough, individually and as a team. We're at the bottom end of the table and it's not easy. "All we can do is get back to the training ground and put things right. It doesn't matter what you've got on paper. It's about form and it's about results."

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West Ham: David Moyes 'interested' as club review Slaven Bilic future
By David Ornstein
BBC Sport

David Moyes says he would be interested in becoming West Ham manager, with the future of current boss Slaven Bilic set to be decided in the next 48 hours.
BBC Sport understands the Hammers have already held talks with ex-Everton and Manchester United manager Moyes. Speaking to Bein Sports, the Scot denied there had been contact, but said he wanted to return to club management. West Ham are one point above the Premier League relegation zone after Saturday's 4-1 defeat by Liverpool. Bilic acknowledged after the game that he was under "big pressure" and in a "very difficult" situation. Moyes said: "I've always said I want to go back into club management. If the right opportunity comes around, I'll be interested."

Asked about West Ham, the 54-year-old said: "I am interested but at the moment that vacancy has not become available. I know what Slaven must be going through." Moyes' former assistant at Everton Alan Irvine could be a candidate to join the Scot's coaching team at West Ham should he be appointed. Bilic's position was discussed in October, but the club's owners opted to give him more time to improve results. Despite victory over Tottenham in the EFL Cup a few days later, the Hammers drew their next Premier League match against Crystal Palace and were then thrashed by Liverpool. Bilic's side have won just two Premier League matches this season and have lost three of their past four games at London Stadium.
Former Hammers manager Sam Allardyce told Match of the Day on Saturday that it "wouldn't surprise him" if Bilic was sacked. Bilic, 49, replaced Allardyce in June 2015, and led the side to seventh place in his first season in charge. But an 11th-placed finish last term, their first at London Stadium, has been followed by a poor start this season. Moyes' most recent managerial job was at Sunderland - he resigned after they were relegated to the Championship in May. West Ham's next match is at Watford on Sunday, 19 November.

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Slaven Bilic's West Ham future to be decided in 48 hours with David Moyes in talks to replace him
By Sky Sports News
Last Updated: 05/11/17 1:44pm
SSN

West Ham will decide on Slaven Bilic's future in the next 48 hours and David Moyes has confirmed his interest in the role if it becomes available. Pressure on Bilic increased on Saturday evening when his struggling side was swept aside 4-1 by Liverpool at the London Stadium. West Ham owners David Gold and David Sullivan believe Bilic has been given enough time to turn things around and Sky Sports News understands Moyes has been approached about replacing him. The Scotsman has also been linked with the managerial opening with his national team after Gordon Strachan left his role at the end of the World Cup qualifying campaign which saw Scotland miss out on Russia 2018. Moyes told beIN Sports: "I've had no contact with West Ham but I've always said I want to go back into club management and if the right opportunity comes around then I'll be interested. "I've been there myself, I know what Slaven is going through at the moment. He must be hating it and wanting to get a result as quickly as he can. If it becomes available yes, but at the moment it's not available. "I don't know if Scotland is right for me now and, as I have said, my preference is to back into club management. For me to get back in it means there's a manager going to have to lose his job and I wouldn't wish that upon anybody."

'A huge risk with Moyes'
The Daily Telegraph's Jason Burt thinks West Ham would be taking a huge risk appointing David Moyes to succeed Slaven Bilic at the London Stadium. Sky Sports News understands there is alarm that the Hammers have only won two Premier League games so far this season despite Bilic making high-profile summer signings in Marko Arnautovic, Javier Hernandez and Joe Hart. West Ham sit in 17th place after 11 games and a win for Everton at home to Watford on Sunday would see them drop into the bottom three. There are also long-standing concerns that training under Bilic is not intense enough and players are not as fit as they could be.
Bilic joined West Ham in the summer of 2015 on a contract which is scheduled to run out next summer. Gold and Sullivan have traditionally stood by their managers during two decades in professional football. When they owned Birmingham City, they had only five managers in 16 years, and since they bought West Ham in 2010, they have had four managers - Gianfranco Zola, Avram Grant and Sam Allardyce preceding Bilic's appointment.

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West Ham would be taking a 'huge risk with David Moyes'
By Ben Grounds
Last Updated: 05/11/17 11:42am
SSN

The Daily Telegraph's Jason Burt thinks West Ham would be taking a huge risk appointing David Moyes to succeed Slaven Bilic at the London Stadium. West Ham would be taking a "huge risk" if they opt to replace manager Slaven Bilic with David Moyes, according to Sunday Supplement panellist Jason Burt. The Hammers will decide the future on the future of Bilic in the next 48 hours and Sky Sports News understands talks are already underway with the former Everton and Manchester United boss. West Ham are just a point outside the relegation zone in the Premier League after they were beaten 4-1 at home to Liverpool on Saturday evening.
Speculation has already turned to who could replace the Croatian as manager at the London Stadium but Burt, chief football correspondent at The Telegraph, believes Moyes would not guarantee stability. "He's a manager they've admired for quite a long time," Burt said. "When Sam Allardyce was going, they wanted Moyes then. He's got a good relationship with Tony Henry [director of player recruitment at West Ham], they worked together at Everton so they've tracked him.
"He's had a few failures, but they want the David Moyes of Everton. They want to throw him a lifeline to see if he can throw them a lifeline. Everyone can have a failure, but two or three in a row and it starts to become a trend. He's going to be fortunate to get this job, and I think he needs to respond quickly. "He needs to get them organised quickly but I've always found him to be quite a slow-burner of a manager, he doesn't go in there and get a quick response from clubs. There's a high risk involved. I think the fact that he's available is almost superseding whether he is the right man for the job."

Bilic received a vote of confidence prior to his side's 3-0 home defeat to Brighton last month from co-chairman David Sullivan, but he has looked increasingly forlorn on the touchline and his side were bereft of ideas against Liverpool. Mohamed Salah scored twice while Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Joel Matip also got on the scoresheet to inflict another heavy loss on the Hammers in front of their own supporters. Dominic King, the North West football reporter for the Daily Mail, feels the time has come for a change in the dugout - and believes Moyes is the right man to steady the ship. He said: "[Moyes] has had a rough ride in his last few jobs. Some people look at Moyes and see him as yesterday's man. They'll look at Sociedad, United and Sunderland and anticipate they'll get more of the same, but he knows this is his last chance. "One more failure at that'll be him, and he knows that. When he feels he has a point to prove, he can be a very dangerous, in terms of he will get a job done. I think if he comes in, he'll keep West Ham up no problem at all."

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LEAKING: WHEN WILL WE EVER LEARN?
By Blind Hammer 5 Nov 2017 at 19:00
WTID

Blind Hammer complains after another leak hits the headlines.

I am anything but a Board Hater. I actually think that they are, by the savage general standard prevalent in football, decent men and good employers who try to support their Managers to an extent rarely seen at other clubs.

However I despaired when I heard Gary Linekar confidently announcing that not only was Bilic to be sacked but also declaring that Moye's was to be the replacement.

He would only do this on National Television if he had a reliable source at the highest level in the club.

I WONDERED IF WE WILL EVER LEARN. Roll back a few years to the disaster that was Avram Grant's management and the leak, in January that Martin O'Neill was to come in as his replacement. O'Neill, another who I believe to be a decent man, was appalled at this leak whilst a fellow manager was still in post, and immediately withdrew his interest. We were left in the lurch with no suitable replacement for Grant and had to allow him to subside us to relegation.
After this calamitous mistake, only a few years ago, I was floored to hear that we had repeated the same disastrous error with another inappropriate leak of managerial replacement. It has negative consequences for Bilic but must also undermine Moye's confidence in the Board and their behaviour.

This is not my normal Blind Hammer column but I felt compelled to comment on this. By the time this piece appears Moyes may be in post but as the day develops even more stories have emerged of u-turns. The constant leaking provides a perception of a club in turmoil. Whoever the club believe is the right man, they are dicing with any potential recruit's sense of honour with this leaking culture. .

I understand the pressure the Board is under and how intense this may be. The massive temptation is to try and tell people about the work they are doing behind the scenes. However relieving this personal pressure through inappropriate leaks is one area that whoever we get as Manager needs to stop immediately. The first we should know is an official announcement.

COYI
David Griffith

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West Ham record signing Marko Arnautovic is part of the problem according to former team mate
The imposing wide man has come in for some criticism
Football London
Greg Johnson
20:36, 5 NOV 2017

West Ham cannot dig themselves out of trouble with players like Marko Arnautovic according to Jonathan Walters. The Burnley striker played alongside the Austrian at Stoke City and admits he is not the sort of player to turn to during a crisis. He also suggested that the Hammers were struggling to perform due to a lack of grit rather than a lack of quality with the culture in the dressing room all wrong. Speaking as a pundit on BBC's Match of the Day 2 Extra programme, the Republic of Ireland international was critical of his former team mate and the attitude of the players at London Stadium.
Football journalist Oliver Holt was also a guest on the show and offered his own damning assessment of the Irons under Slaven Bilic. "Every time I watch West Ham in the past 12 months, they're awful," he said. "There are games where they win and maybe I just don't see those games. The games were I watch 90 minutes of West Ham they are invariably awful. "Spiritless, spineless, gutless, witless - you could see that coming yesterday, that it was not only going to be a defeat but a comprehensive defeat."
Walters agreed with the thrust of Holt's evaluation of the Hammers following their 4-1 loss to Liverpool at home and put down the club's struggles to a lack of commitment and character among the playing staff. "The West Ham players - what type of players are you trying to sign?" said the Premier League veteran. "You're a London club so you attract a certain type of player, paying big wages so they've taken a step down from a bigger club, a top four, top six club.
"There's a reason why they left those bigger clubs. When you say they're not trying, gutless there's a reason why they left those clubs because they have the talent, so when they go to a club like West Ham and it's not going the right way do they have that grit to get the results they need?"

Arnautovic became West Ham's record signing in the summer after spending four years at Stoke. He had previously played for Inter in Serie A and former Bundesliga champions Werder Bremen. Yet according to Walters, his former strike partner is another player who embodies the problems behind the scenes at West Ham. "Marko could turn it on the last year, [and over the] past few years, and when he's on it, he's on it, but how many games did he did he do it over the course of the season," said the 34-year-old. "And would he do the other side of it [tracking back] and could he do it consistently? For me, it's probably a good deal for Stoke. Then again, it's a step up for Marko. "He has to step up and has he done it? You'd say he hasn't. But that seems the type of player they've got at the club, they won't be digging in."
Bilic is set to be sacked by West Ham in the coming days with David Moyes lined up to replace the Croatian. He was appointed as Sunderland manager last season and charged with saving the Black Cats from relegation but failed to do so. The Irons have previously been linked with Carlo Ancelotti and Thomas Tuchel and there has been disappointment in some quarters at the news that the former Everton and Manchester Untied coach is in talks to take over at the club.

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Moyes is 'perfect' for West Ham – Neville
BBc.co.uk

Former Manchester United defender Phil Neville says David Moyes would be a "fantastic" manager for West Ham, should the job become available.

Moyes says he would be interested in taking charge, with the future of current boss Slaven Bilic set to be decided in the next 48 hours.

But Neville, who was Moyes' number two at Manchester United, says he would not consider joining his old boss at the Hammers.

This clip is taken from 5 live Sport on Sunday 5th November, 2017.

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Slaven Bilic facing West Ham exit while David Moyes waits in wings
• Joint chairman David Sullivan to meet Bilic on Monday
• Moyes has been out of work since leaving Sunderland
Sachin Nakrani
The Guaradian
Sunday 5 November 2017 19.45 GMT Last modified on Sunday 5 November 2017 20.57 GMT

Slaven Bilic is expected to be told he is no longer West Ham United's manager during a meeting with the club's joint chairman, David Sullivan, on Monday with David Moyes expected to replace the Croat on an initial six-month contract.

Bilic's position has been under threat for some time but the plan was for the former West Ham defender to leave in the summer after seeing out the three‑year contract he signed when appointed as Sam Allardyce's successor in June 2015. But that has appeared increasingly unlikely given recent results and it is believed the 4-1 home defeat by Liverpool on Saturday has proved to be the final straw for Sullivan and his co-chairman, David Gold.

West Ham delivered a listless display against Jürgen Klopp's side, enduring their sixth defeat in the opening 11 games of the season to leave them 18th and in the relegation zone. Many supporters left the London Stadium early, with boos ringing out among those who remained when the final whistle blew.

Bilic insisted later that he was not a "broken man", but the 49-year-old also accepted he was "under pressure" and generally appeared resigned to his fate.

With the international break having started, this is an ideal time for the Hammers to make the change and it is believed Sullivan and Gold have targeted Moyes as the man to take over. The Scot, who has been out of work since resigning from Sunderland in May after their relegation from the Premier League, said on Sunday that he had not held talks with club officials but would be interested in doing so.

"I've always said I want to go back into club management," Moyes said in an interview with Bein Sports. "I am interested [in becoming West Ham manager] but at the moment that vacancy has not become available. I know what Slaven must be going through."

Moyes could well be in place for West Ham's match with Watford at Vicarage Road on 19 November and begin what would be his fourth spell in charge of a Premier League club following tenures at Everton and Manchester United, prior to joining Sunderland. The 54-year-old's stock has fallen considerably in recent years, with an unsuccessful spell at Real Sociedad also damaging his reputation, and that might explain why West Ham are supposedly reluctant to hand him a long-term deal.

Bilic has enjoyed mixed success at West Ham. He led the club to seventh at the end of his first season in charge but endured a difficult start to the following campaign, which in part was put down to the team adjusting to life at the London Stadium having departed Upton Park.

He eventually guided them to 11th and was given the funds to strengthen the squad during the summer, bringing in the likes of Javier Hernández, Pablo Zabaleta and Marko Arnautovic, the latter for a club record £25m fee.

The pressure fell back on Bilic almost immediately, however, after West Ham lost their opening three games, which led to his position being discussed by Sullivan and Gold last month, after the 3-0 home defeat by Brighton. It was reported that Bilic was subsequently given two games to save his job and he went on to guide West Ham to two creditable results – a 3-2 win at Tottenham Hotspur in the Carabao Cup and a 2-2 league draw at Crystal Palace. But following the game, and performance, on Saturday his time finally appears to be up.

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Everton 3 Watford 2: Toffees send West Ham into bottom three with stunning comeback win
PHIL MEDLICOTT
ES Sport

Everton came from two goals down to secure a dramatic 3-2 home victory over Watford and move out of the Premier League relegation zone, with ex-Toffees midfielder Tom Cleverley missing a last-gasp chance to level for the visitors from the penalty spot.

Everton looked set for a sixth successive defeat in all competitions, and fourth under caretaker manager David Unsworth, when Christian Kabasele's 64th-minute header put the visitors 2-0 up, adding to Richarlison's strike in the first minute of the second half.

But Oumar Niasse pulled a goal back three minutes later, substitute Dominic Calvert-Lewin headed home an equaliser with 16 minutes to go and Leighton Baines subsequently converted a penalty in stoppage time to complete the turnaround. Cleverley then had the opportunity to make it 3-3 at the death but sent his spot-kick off-target.

What was Everton's first win in nine matches saw them rise from 19th to 15th in the table, with West Ham slipping into the bottom three, and brought a much-needed dose of positivity ahead of the international break, in which the club's hierarchy are expected to make a decision on the permanent successor to the sacked Ronald Koeman.

What becomes of Unsworth, who would like the job full-time, remains to be seen but what is certain is that he will have taken great satisfaction from this, the first home match he has overseen since taking temporary charge, which was watched from the stands by major shareholder Farhad Moshiri and chairman Bill Kenwright.

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DID THE LAST POST SOUND FOR SLAVEN BILIC?
By Iain Dale 4 Nov 2017 at 23:15
WTID

Before the match the Last Post was played by a lone trumpeter so we could pay our respects to the fallen. The question is whether it should also have been played after the final whistle, given that this was surely Slaven Bilic's last match in charge of West Ham. I say that with no joy at all. I was delighted when Bilic was appointed as West Ham's manager. His first season was superb. Last season wasn't, even though we eventually finished 11th. This season has been a massive disappointment. We don't seem to be able to play for 90 minutes. There are flashes of brilliance for 30 or 45 minutes but otherwise we have looked poor. Our fitness levels remain in question. Our players run less than other team in the League. That tells you something. We saw it today.

It seems to me there are several players who gave up on Bilic some time ago, and we all know who they are. I don't think he's lost the entire dressing room, but enough of it to make the difference. Given the signings we made in the summer we ought to be in the top half of the table. Instead we are flirting with relegation. The last time we had this few points in a season at this stage Avram Grant was the manager. And, well, we all know what happened to him. And to us.
If a change is going to be made, now is the time to make it. There are two weeks to find a replacement. There must already be a shortlist of replacements. If there isn't, then someone isn't doing their job properly. I don't necessarily want a big name manager. I certainly don't want Roberto Mancini. I don't especially want Benitez. There are plenty of British managers around, even if we can't entice Eddie Howe or Sean Dyche at this point.

Let's see if the Board agree that a change needs to be made, and whether that time is now.

UPDATE: Rumour is that David Moyes will be the new manager. I want to cry.

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West Ham to sack Slaven Bilic and appoint David Moyes after 4-1 loss to Liverpool
It's all over for the Croatian in east London
Football London
Sam Inkersole Greg Johnson
23:42, 4 NOV 2017UPDATED00:03, 5 NOV 2017

Slaven Bilic is to be sacked by West Ham after their 4-1 home defeat to Liverpool. An official announcement is expected in the coming days and football.london understand that David Moyes has already been lined up as his successor. He will be rewarded with a £2million bonus if he keeps them safe from relegation this season - a challenge he failed to overcome while in charge of Sunderland last year. The Black Cats were relegated back in May and are currently bottom of the Championship. Moyes left the club in the summer and is currently unattached. Prior to taking over at the Stadium of Light he spent time at Manchester United and Real Sociedad, only to be dismissed due to poor results and unhappiness over his style of football. Yet in spite of his recent disappointments in the Premier League and in Spain, the Scot has an impressive track record in management. He spent 518 games and more than 11 years in charge of Everton and lifted the club from fighting against relegation battles to challenging for a place in the Champions League. West Ham's owners have previously set the top four as a target for their club, although Moyes will have more pressing concerns at the London Stadium. A 10-time winner of the Premier League manager of the month award, and recipient of the LMA manager of the year award on three occasions, the 54-year-old will celebrate 20 years in the dugout next year.
Following Everton's decision to sack Ronald Koeman earlier this month their former coach was tipped with a return to Goodison Park. His first job in management came with Preston North End in January 1998 when he was charged with saving the club from relegation to the English third tier. The Irons will be hoping that two decades on from keeping the Lilywhites in the second division he can do the same for West Ham in the Premier League.

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West Ham were 'not well coached' under Slaven Bilic according to Sam Allardyce
Football london
Greg Johnson
07:00, 5 NOV 2017

Sam Allardyce has pinned Slaven Bilic's fate on mistakes, poor coaching and unrealistic expectations among fans as the West Ham boss nears the exit. football.london understands that the Croatian is to be sacked and replaced by former Everton, Manchester United and Sunderland manager David Moyes. The board's decision will be announced in the coming days following their 4-1 home defeat to Liverpool. After weeks of speculation over who could be in line to takeover in the dugout there has been mixed reaction to the rumours over the Scot's impending appointment. Allardyce himself was initially linked with the job but is said to be in the running to takeover at Everton following Ronald Koeman's dismissal in October. He has past experience managing the Irons and spent four seasons at Upton Park between June 2011 and May 2015, lifting the club back up into the Premier League after their relegation to the Championship. Speaking on the BBC's Match of the Day, he blamed Bilic's downfall and the loss to Liverpool on "an accumulation of small mistakes" and admitted he wasn't shocked to hear that the 49-year-old could be on his way out. "It wouldn't surprise me because there were rumours around that Slaven had two games or three games," he said. "No contract extension in the summer, no new contract. "It can have an effect but at the end of the day they've backed Slaven with the players they've brought in and I think the players have lost their way because of constant changes."
West Ham signed Marko Arnautovic and Javier Hernandez in the summer and Alllardyce also blamed the Croatian's demeanour and training methods. "Certainly in this moment in time, he looks dejected," he said. "Structurally, they're not well coached." However, the 63-year-old former coach of Bolton Wanderers, Newcastle United, Blackburn Rovers, Sunderland, England and Crystal Palace also hit out at West Ham fans for making the job of managing the club harder than it needs to be. "It's the type of football you've got to play," he said. "It's not about defending well which it should be and then winning, it's about how you play, open up and play expansive football."
Despite winning promotion back into the Premier League, Allardyce often faced criticism over the standard of football at Upton Park during his reign, with some supporters decrying his directness as a betrayal of 'the West Ham way'. Moyes is likely to take a similar approach to trying to steady West Ham and will earn himself a £2million bonus if they do stave off relegation - something he failed to do last season while in charge of Sunderland, a club that Big Sam was able to save from the drop the year before.

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BIL OF RIGHTS Slaven Bilic WILL be sacked by West Ham in coming days with David Moyes lined up as replacement who will bring in Phil Neville
The Hammers board have finally lost patience with the Croat and he faces the chop during the upcoming international break
BREAKING
By Daniel Cutts & Richard Forrester
4th November 2017, 8:33 pm
The Sun

SLAVEN BILIC is set to be sacked by West Ham in the coming days - and replaced by David Moyes. The Hammers board have finally lost patience with the Croat, and he faces the chop during the upcoming international break. And West Ham are lining up the ex-Manchester United boss as his replacement until the end of the season. Phil Neville will also be part of the sacked Sunderland chief's backroom team, according to reports. Bilic appeared defeated after watching his side fall to a 4-1 home defeat against Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool. After the match he admitted that he "has to talk to the chairman" and it remains "a very difficult situation for me."
The thumping at the London Stadium leaves West Ham one point above the drop zone after just two wins in 11 matches. Moyes, his potential replacement, has been out of work since his Sunderland side were relegated at the end of last season. But the 54-year-old is desperate to get back into work and would fancy himself to steer the Hammers further up the table. It is believed he would be offered a temporary role until the end of the season with the prospect of staying on permanently should he impress the board and supporters. Everton are also thought to have Moyes on their managerial shortlist as they look to appoint a permanent boss. The Scot spent 11 years at Goodison Park before leaving for Manchester United and boasts a strong relationship with club chairman Bill Kenwright.

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