Daily WHUFC News - 25th November 2017

Kouyate header earns Hammers Leicester point
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West Ham United 1 – 1 Leicester City
Premier League

Cheikhou Kouyate's header earned David Moyes his first point as West Ham
United manager as his side fought back well to draw 1-1 with Leicester City
on Friday night. The Hammers had to recover from the early blow of falling
behind to Marc Albrighton's eighth minute opener, and they showed great
spirit to do just that.
Kouyate rose highest to nod home a Manuel Lanzini corner on the stroke of
half-time and it was the Hammers, backed by a tremendous atmosphere inside
London Stadium, who remained on the front foot after the break. Joe Hart was
barely tested in goal in the second period as the hosts searched for a way
through, but they could not break down a stubborn Foxes defence again and
had to settle for a point. Moyes made one change from the side which faced
Watford in his first game as Hammers boss, with Arthur Masuaku coming in for
Mark Noble, but his team made a similar start to that Vicarage Road. There
were just eight minutes on the clock when Jamie Vardy fashioned space on the
left to cross. His low delivery eluded Angelo Ogbonna and Albrighton had
moved in from the flank to steer home.
Vardy's pace threatened to create another chance midway through the half
when he burst into life in the left channel and nicked the ball inside
Winston Reid, but Marko Arnautovic had tracked back diligently to shepherd
the England striker away from danger. It was an excellent piece of defending
and the Hammers almost took full advantage on 26 minutes when Masuaku's
strong run forward was halted illegally outside the box and Lanzini's
delivery was flicked goalwards by Ogbonna, forcing a save from Kasper
Schmeichel. The Hammers were trying to get on the front foot, but had to be
wary of Leicester's pace on the counter and Riyad Mahrez made a couple of
probing runs as time wore on before the break, calling Hart into action with
one rising effort from 20 yards. At the other end, the hosts' fashioned an
opportunity for Kouyate eight minutes before the interval, but he could only
nod wide after Cresswell crossed wickedly from the left. Right on the stroke
of half-time the Senegal midfielder more than made up for it, rising in the
centre to head Lanzini's corner goalwards with enough force that Danny
Simpson's shoulder couldn't keep it out on the line.

It was an impressive response to the early blow of falling behind and
Masuaku tried to drive the Hammers yet further forward early after the
restart, making Schmeichel hold his testing cross-shot as he drove on down
the left. Arnautovic was continuing to put a real shift in and he got across
his man to meet a Lanzini cross on 63 minutes, but from his position in
front of the near post he couldn't force the ball on target. Although West
Ham were having the better of the game, clear chances were difficult to come
by as the game looked to be heading for a draw. There was time for one more
opportunity when sub Andre Ayew acroatically attempted to score in the
aftermath of a late corner, but the ball flew over the bar and the Hammers
had to settle for a well-earned point.

West Ham United: Hart, Zabaleta, Reid (c), Ogbonna, Cresswell, Obiang,
Kouyate, Arnautovic (Ayew 69), Lanzini, Masuaku (Sakho 90+2), Carroll
Subs: Adrian, Noble, Fernandes, Quina, Rice
Goal: Kouyate 45
Booked: Ayew

Leicester City: Schmeichel, Simpson, Morgan (c), Maguire, Fuchs, Ndidi,
Iborra, Albrighton, Mahrez (Chilwell 70), Gray (Slimani 90+1), Vardy
Subs: Hamer, Iheanacho, King, Dragovic, Okazaki
Goal: Albrighton 8

Referee: Martin Atkinson
Attendance: 56,897

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Arnautovic: We are progressing
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Marko Arnautovic felt Friday's 1-1 draw with Leicester City shows the
Hammers are making progress in the early days of David Moyes' reign as
manager. Cheikhou Kouyate's header on the stroke of half-time cancelled out
Marc Albrighton's early opener and West Ham remained on the front foot in
the second half as they searched for a winner. Backed by the tremendous
support of the London Stadium crowd the Hammers probed, and although they
could not find a way through a stubborn Foxes defence for a second time,
Arnautovic was pleased with how the hosts responded. He also had praise for
the fans' vocal support and wants to reward them with victories as soon as
possible. He said: "I think we deserved more and from my point of view we
were the better team. We know we are not in an easy situation, but I think
we are progressing. "The fans today were so loud. The last weeks have not
been what everyone wanted and we know they are disappointed because we're
not bringing the results, but they were behind us and they gave everything
like we did on the pitch. "I hope we can continue like that, and that we can
have a lot of joy, but we need to win the games. "We came good after the
goal. We said 'come on let's do this, we need to fight, we need to win and
we need to get our goals'. "We got it [the equaliser] before half time and
we had a few chances. Let's now be okay with a point and move on."

From a personal point of view, Arnautovic contributed at both ends of the
pitch, supplying seven crosses as well as doing his defensive duty
diligently and he feels he is getting back to form. He added: "It was hard
for me at the beginning of the season. I got the red card, then I was ill
when we played Swansea and it was hard mentally for me, but I think I'm
ready, I'm fit and I hope I can give everything for West Ham. "I'm not here
for no reason, and I want to show the fans, the players and everyone
involved at West Ham that they can count on me. Last week I had [the injury]
with my hand and on Friday I had a bang on my knee. "I tried to run it off,
but I don't want to hurt the team. If there are players with fresh legs who
can help the team, I don't want to be the man who can't move any more.
"I want to help the team, I want to give assists and score goals. Hopefully
that can come in the future."

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Moyes praises players and fans after London Stadium debut
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David Moyes praised both his West Ham United players and the Claret and Blue
Army for helping the Hammers to a hard-earned 1-1 Premier League draw with
Leicester City. The Scot marked his first home game in charge with a
deserved point as Cheikhou Kouyate's equaliser on the stroke of half-time
cancelled out Marc Albrighton's early opener. With the London Stadium
faithful in great voice, Moyes' team went in search of a winner their
overall performance arguably deserved, but ultimately the Hammers had to
settle for a share of the spoils. "It was a start for us tonight. It's not
been the best place for us, but I thought the players' performance warranted
more. I thought the crowd were fantastic, so all the negatives I've heard
about the crowd, I thought the opposite and that they were great, they
really were. "I think any player will tell you that West Ham has always been
a tough place to come over the years, with a tough crowd and they can make
it that way in this stadium as well, and I think they did tonight. "I
thought they got right behind the players, but I also thought the players
gave them something to shout about as well."

The second half may not have brought a winning goal for the hosts, but they
controlled the game for long periods and went close on a number of
occasions, most notably through substitute Andre Ayew's overhead kick. "I
thought they were great in the second half and that's why the crowd reacted
so well," said Moyes.
"I think they are low on confidence as the results haven't gone well and
they lost a manager as well, and when it goes like that it's difficult and
you need some things to go for you now and again. "We lost a goal after
eight minutes when I don't know if Leicester had been up the pitch before
that. They stuck at it though, they really did, and the second half they
made a really good go of it and in the end we might have nicked it."

Two players who caught the eye were wingers Marko Arnautovic and Arthur
Masuaku, who gave Leicester full-backs Danny Simpson and Christian Fuchs a
tough time with their power, pace and direct running. The pair delivered 15
of West Ham's 31 crosses and generally pushed the Foxes onto the back foot
every time they took possession. "Marko played really well for us on Sunday,
without really getting a lot of praise for it. Everybody said he hasn't run
so I said 'If you don't run, we won't play you', so he's running and I
think, if you're a full-back, you don't really want to play against
Arnautovic because he's got power and pace. "He probably prefers to play on
the left-hand side but we've got a few people who want to do that, so at the
moment we are playing him on the opposite side. "We want him to be a big
player. We spent a lot of money on him and we want him to score goals and
make goals and tonight he helped us."

The statistics also showed that the Hammers outran and outsprinted their
opponents, showing further evidence of their improving fitness levels under
Moyes and his coaching staff. So, was the manager happy with his team's
output in his first home game at the helm? "We've learnt that we can run and
they have now set the standard and cannot go below that. Even then, we only
got a draw, so we'll need to play better with the ball when we get it and at
least keep those levels up if we are going to take something from every
game."

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Hammers U23s bested away to Arsenal
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West Ham United U23s fell to a 3-0 defeat against their Arsenal counterparts
in a tricky contest on Friday evening. Two first half goals from Vlad
Dragomir put the Gunners in control at half-time, and if not for a penalty
save by Nathan Trott that lead could have been greater. Grady Diangana and
Toni Martinez saw efforts saved for the Hammers in freezing conditions at
Boreham Wood, but Arsenal secured the win with a late finish through Eddie
Nketiah in the second half. It was the Hammers that had the opening effort
of the game as Diangana fired a shot over the bar in the first minute, after
the away side got forward from the opening whistle. Risky play in the
back-line, particularly from goalkeeper Matt Macey, almost allowed Martinez
in as well but it was Arsenal that took the lead after six minutes.
Dragomir's header looped over Trott and into the far corner. The England
youth international was the hero just minutes later however as Arsenal were
given the chance to extend their lead from the penalty spot. Eddie Nketiah's
effort from 12 yards was excellently saved by Trott down to his right. Ben
Johnson and Sead Haksabanovic came close to getting West Ham level with
headers from corners, while Martin Samuelsen was brought down in the area
only for the referee to wave away the penalty appeals.

Martinez saw a shot saved by Macey as well before Arsenal doubled their
advantage. Dragomir grabbed his second on 36 minutes after a well-found ball
put him in, allowing the Arsenal player to score. The second period began in
the exact same vein as the first with Diangana again having the opening shot
of the half. This time the midfielder's curling effort forced a decent save
from Macey. The Hammers were a more composed unit following the break and
captain Moses Makasi came very close to getting the Irons back in the game,
but his follow-up shot was over the bar. Arsenal's Da Silva took an effort,
which Trott held well, but chances in the second half were scarcer as both
sides battled in midfield. But the Gunners secured all three points with
their third goal in the 82nd minute as Nketiah fired home from close range.

Arsenal: Macey, Osei-Tutu, Bola, Sheaf, Pleguezuelo; Medley, Dragomir,
Dasilva, Nketiah; Willock, Smith Rowe
Subs not used: Gilmour, Keto, Amaechi, Eyoma
Goalscorers: Draogmir 6' 36', Nketiah 82'

West Ham United: Trott; Johnson, Akinola, Wells, Longelo; Makasi, Coventry,
Samuelsen, Haksabanovic (Hector-Ingram 52'), DIangana; Martinez
Subs not used: Powell, Matrevics, Bernardo,

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Arsenal had 'cutting edge' over West Ham U23s - Westley
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Academy director Terry Westley has conceded Arsenal's quality was the
difference as the West Ham United U23s fell to a 3-0 defeat in Boreham Wood.
Two first half finishes from Vlad Dragomir were followed up by a late Eddie
Nketiah strike to hand the Hammers the loss on Friday evening. West Ham
looked to battle back in the second period but struggled to find a way
through a strong Arsenal team, and Westley admitted that his young U23s side
were beaten by the better side on the night. "They are a strong team with
strong players," Westley told whufc.com. "Some have played in the Europa
League or at least travelled with the squad, with the first team. You could
see the quality they had in their team. "I though we stayed with the game
nicely in the second half to be fair. The late goal was a bit unfair on us
given how hard we had worked, but Arsenal really had the cutting edge. They
play some nice, attractive football. We were really just trying to stay with
them. A 3-0 was about right."

Westley did not look to make excuses for the loss but did point to the
number of regular U23s players that his team lined up without. Nathan
Holland is currently out injured, as is Josh Pask, while Declan Rice and
Domingos Quina were with the first team squad at London Stadium for the
Premier League tie with Leicester City. The Academy director added: "I don't
think you can take out the quality of players we've in our squad, like Pask
and Holland, and then Declan Rice and Domingos Quina. When you take that
level out, we haven't got the numbers to come in and really strengthen the
team again. It was always going to be difficult.
"Rosaire Longelo, Ben Wells and Ben Johnson are all under 18, meaning three
of our back four were under 18. Conor Coventry, in midfield, is also under
18, so it was going to be a tall order tonight from the start."

Westley did however indicate that such a game taught him and his coaching
team about other qualities the players possess, before highlighting Nathan
Trott'a performance. The goalkeeper made a number of top saves, including
one from a first-half penalty, in Friday's match to stop Arsenal from
netting more than the three goals they found. Westley continued: "It was a
different type of game and what you do see is people's character and the
ones who can stand up to it when it goes against you. "On that note, I would
probably say our best performer was our goalkeeper, Nathan Trott. He's had
14 plus shots to deal with tonight and he's pulled off some very good saves,
including the penalty."

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West Ham United Ladies v C&K Basildon: All you need to know
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West Ham United Ladies return to action this weekend with a home contest
against C&K Basildon.
Read on for everything you need ahead of this Sunday's fixture, including
ticket information, team news, and a look at this weekend's opposition:
Where and When?

West Ham United Ladies will play C&K Basildon in the FA Women's Premier
League Southern Division on Sunday 26 November.

The contest is to be played at home, at the Rush Green Stadium, with
kick-off scheduled for 2pm.
How to follow:

Season Ticket holders and Claret Members can attend this Ladies contest for
free!
General admission is £2 while U16s can also enter free of charge.
Live updates will be provided throughout the afternoon through the official
West Ham United Ladies Twitter account.
Highlights of Sunday's fixture will be available on the West Ham United
website on Monday.
Meet the opposition:
0:21

Team news:

Greg de Carnys will be hoping he can call on some regular first team players
when the Ladies return to action against C&K Basildon.

Captain Amy Cooper and Chloe Burr were among the players that missed the
last match against Coventry United, while Rosie Kmita was only fit enough
for the bench, and it remains to be seen if any of those trio will be
available for this weekend's fixture.

De Carnys said: "We're hoping we will have a few players back, but a couple
are not available. It's about making sure we get them back in the right way
so they can stay injury free. I'll be taking the advice I get from the
physios."
What they say:
"C&K Basildon are a tough side, as we found when we played them last time. I
think we've improved since then though. They are the only other side to beat
Charlton this season. We know it's a tough challenge but we are ready."
Greg de Carnys
West Ham United Ladies manager
Last time out:

West Ham United Ladies:

Despite a debut goal from Zoe Swift the Hammers fell to a defeat in their
last fixture, suffering a 2-1 loss away at a tough Coventry United.

The Ladies had taken the lead but conceded a penalty just minutes before
half-time, which was converted, before Coventry won the match in the second
period.

C&K Basildon Ladies:

Two goals apiece for Jay Blackie and Angela Addison put C&K Basildon well on
their way with the side picking up an impressive 5-0 victory over Cardiff
City Ladies.

Danica Revell claimed the other goal in the win.
How to get there:
Rush Green (RM7 0LU) can be found on Rush Green road and provides free
parking for Ladies matches. The nearest train station is Romford which is
roughly a 30 minute walk to Rush Green.

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WEST HAM 1-1 LEICESTER CITY – MATCH REPORT
AUTHOR: BRIAN KNOX. PUBLISHED: 24 NOVEMBER 2017 AT 10:29PM
TheWestHamWay.co.uk
Match Report by @WestHamAmerican

West Ham drew tonight 1-1 to Leicester City in a Friday night premier league
fixture that featured a spirited home crowd and a bit more passion from the
stands of the London Stadium than recent matches have shown. For Claude
Puel , he like David Moyes, is still finding his path with his first team
players. But with proven scorers like Jamie Vardy, the Foxes have shown
they are able to score quickly.

In the early going on Leicester's first real counter attack, Vardy crossed
to a poorly defended Marc Albrighton, who found the corner of the net.
While Vardy showed his usual pace, it was the poor communication from centre
backs that allowed Albrighton the space to open up the scoring.

Following the opening goal, West Ham seemed to regroup and carried a slight
advantage in possession throughout the opening half. Desperately needing an
equaliser , Andy Carroll tried his best to play his role of target man.
Crosses from Cresswell and Arnautovic were close but not quite there for the
tall striker.

Finally, in the final minute of the half, a West Ham corner kick allowed
Cheikhou Kouyate muscle through Wilfred Ndidi and get a header past Kasper
Schmeichel (the header actually rolled off of Danny Simpson's back, and into
the goal). But West Ham went level and found some momentum heading into the
break.

The second half was spirited but neither goalkeeper was under much duress
for most of the half. The fans at the London Stadium really came to life in
the second half to encourage their struggling side on to a sorely needed
victory. The most notable point of the second half was the number of game
stoppages due to injury on both sides of the pitch.

In the final moments of the half and the six minutes of added time, it was
West Ham showing the most ambition in taking all three points, however the
Hammers were unable to find a clean shot and Leicester showed some fortitude
in defending Lanzini's set plays. The closest attempt was a stoppage time
corner kick which featured an Andre Ayew overhead kick in heavy traffic
which sailed over the crossbar.

It wasn't lack of effort towards the end, but Martin Atkinson's whistle
ended West Ham's chances at victory and Moyes had to settle for a single
point for all of the effort. The story to follow after this match is the
medical status of Arnautovic, and Kouyate. Both picked up injuries,
although only Arnautovic left the match.

It is a short week for West Ham as they travel to Goodison Park to face a
struggling Everton side, still without a new manager. Coming off their
1-5 Europa league embarrassment, the Toffees will be seeking some redemption
and both clubs desperately need a victory.

Be sure to stay tuned to TheWestHamWay for all your information on
Wednesday's match.

West Ham: Hart, Zabaleta, Reid, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Kouyate, Obiang,
Arnautovic, Lanzini, Masuaku, Carroll
Subs: Adrian, Rice, Noble, Quina, Fernandes, Sakho (93'), Ayew (69')

Leicester: Schmeichel, Simpson, Morgan, Maguire, Fuchs, Mahrez, Ndidi,
Albrighton, Iborra, Gray, Vardy
Subs: Hamer, Chilwell (70'), Dragovic, King, Okazaki, Slimani (92'),
Iheanacho

Referee: Martin Atkinson

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West Ham 1-1 Leicester: David Moyes picks up first point of Hammers tenure
By Lewis Jones at The London Stadium
Last Updated: 25/11/17 8:00am
SSN

West Ham extended their winless run to six games as they were held to a 1-1
draw with Leicester City on Friday Night Football. In David Moyes first home
game in charge, West Ham fell behind inside eight minutes when Marc
Albrighton took advantage of some sloppy Hammers defending. That early goal
could have triggered a toxic atmosphere inside The London Stadium but - as
Moyes had called for all week - the club and fans stuck together and got a
deserved equaliser through Cheikhou Kouyate right on half-time. A point was
not enough to lift West Ham out of the drop zone, who have put together
their worst start to a season since 2010 when they were relegated under
Avram Grant.

Player ratings
West Ham: Hart (6), Zabaleta (6), Reid (6), Ogbonna (5), Cresswell (6),
Kouyate (7), Obiang (6), Arnautovic (7), Lanzini (6), Masuaku (7), Carroll
(5).
Subs: Ayew (6), Sakho (6)

Leicester: Schmeichel (6), Simpson, (6) Morgan (6), Maguire (6), Fuchs (6),
Mahrez (6), Ndidi (7), Albrighton (7), Iborra (6), Gray (6), Vardy (7)
Subs: Chilwell (6),

Man of the match: Marko Arnautovic

Moyes would have been hoping to build on the positive signs on show in the
defeat at Watford, but his team wilted inside eight minutes. Jamie Vardy was
allowed to run free down the left and his cross was missed completely by
Angelo Ogbonna, which allowed Albrighton the opportunity to poke home from
close range.
The Hammers was quite lucky to get away with a penalty appeal on 22 minutes
when Albrighton was bundled into by Arthur Masuaku and Vardy curled inches
wide seven minutes later. However, West Ham always looked a threat from
set-pieces and they forced home the equaliser just before the break when
Kouyate bundled in a left-wing corner. David Moyes dropped Mark Noble for
winger Arthur Masuaku in the only change from the 2-0 defeat at Watford.
Claude Puel named the same players that started the 2-0 home defeat against
Manchester City last Saturday. Despite the best efforts of the home fans,
who tried to roar their team forward, West Ham failed to really lay siege to
the Leicester goal in a disjointed second period that was lacking in
quality. The stop-start nature to proceedings resulted in six minutes of
injury time and substitute Andre Ayew nearly nicked it with an acrobatic
attempt following a goalmouth scramble but his effort flew inches over.

Man of the match: Marko Arnautovic

It looked at times as though West Ham had signed a new right winger. The
home fans had yet to see their big money signing really produce a high level
of work-rate but he produced the goods here in a solid all-round display.
The pick of his key moments came midway through the first-half where he
sprinted back 50 yards to make a vital last-ditch tackle on Jamie Vardy.
Moyes commented: "He was very good - people told me on Sunday that was one
of his better games. He showed the other side to his game that he knows he
has to do."

Opta stats

Moyes has failed to win any of his 11 Premier League home games in 2017 (D4
L7), equalling the record set by Mick McCarthy in 2005 (P11 W0 D3 L8).
Kouyate has been involved in more goals against Leicester (3, two goals and
one assist) than any other opponent in the Premier League.
No side has conceded more goals from corners in the Premier League this
season than Leicester (6, level with Watford).
West Ham are yet to win a Premier League match at the London Stadium in
which they conceded first (D3 L10).

Manager reaction: David Moyes
"The second half was much more like us, it was more like the crowd, it was
more like Upton Park. There was 10 minutes when the crowd was right behind
the team - they need it, we need it."
David Moyes was encouraged by West Ham's performance in their 1-1 draw with
Leicester at the London Stadium and felt the display merited more.

Claude Puel

"We had to kill the game after the first half. With the goal before
half-time West Ham took confidence."

What's next?

West Ham face fellow strugglers Everton on Wednesday before facing
Manchester City (a), Chelsea (h) and Arsenal (a). Meanwhile, Leicester have
a home clash with Tottenham on Tuesday evening.

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David Moyes praises West Ham fans for making 'atmosphere like Upton Park'
Last Updated: 25/11/17 7:44am
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David Moyes praised the home fans for sticking with his West Ham team and
likened the atmosphere to Upton Park in the 1-1 draw with Leicester. The
Hammers extended their winless run to six games with the result but there
were plenty of positives to take from the performance. After falling behind
early, the atmosphere could have turned toxic inside The London Stadium but
- as Moyes had called for all week - the club and fans stuck together and
got a deserved equaliser through Cheikhou Kouyate right on half-time.
Moyes acknowledged the crowd's backing. He said: "We were a little bit
unlucky to go behind - we showed character. We could've gone under but they
kept digging in. "We didn't play as well as we should have in first half
but we warranted going in level at half-time. The second half was much more
like us, it was more like the crowd, it was more like Upton Park. There was
10 minutes when the crowd was right behind the team - they need it, we need
it. "The players worked hard and deserved the applause. When we went 1-0
down, the supporters didn't boo - they understood we didn't deserve to be
behind. The players stuck at it. "I thought the second half was terrific in
the way the supporters got behind the team. They got behind them as they saw
the effort from the players. It goes hand-in-hand."

Marko Arnautovic, who has flattered to deceive since joining from Stoke City
in the summer, put in a much-improved showing on the right wing. His
willingness to work back and help out his defence was duly noted by Moyes.
"He was very good - people told me on Sunday that was one of his better
games," he said. "He showed the other side to his game that he knows he has
to do. "He needs to make sure he does that week-in, week-out. They've all
got to do it, they all tried to the best of their ability."

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"It's difficult to get a back-four that disorganised, it's shocking!" Gary
Neville tears into West Ham's defence
The Sky Sports pundit couldn't believe what he was watching in the first
half of West Ham's game with Leicester City
The Mirror
ByJake Polden
21:39, 24 NOV 2017

Gary Neville ripped apart West Ham's back-four following a shocking
defensive display in the first half of their Premier League clash with
Leicester City. The Manchester United legend said he couldn't believe what
he had just witnessed, and claimed it actually takes work for a defence to
be that disorganised. The Hammers fell behind in just eight minutes of the
clash at the London Stadium when Jamie Vardy picked out Marc Albrighton in
the box and he fired past Joe Hart.
Angelo Ogbonna was all over the place when the ball came into the box, and
the Italian struggled to recover as the first half wore on. Criticising his
performance, as well as the rest of the West Ham defence, Neville told Spy
Sports: "That is very difficult to coach to get a back-four that
disorganised, it's shocking, and it leaves Vardy one-on-one. "Ogbonna has
had a nightmare, he really has at centre-back." "Look at them, walking. You
have got to show some level of liveliness and alertness, be on your toes.
"But you look at them, that gap there, and you look at Ogbonna. I have no
idea what he is doing. Just watch him here, he doesn't even move. "Against a
throw-in, it's absolutely scandalous to be found in that position, and it's
just a penalty, he's tackling from the wrong side, it's definitely a
penalty."
He concluded: "And at that point of the game it could have been away from
David Moyes, it could have been away from West Ham, and you could have seen
this crowd getting toxic."

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