Wednesday, November 1

Daily WHUFC News - 1st November 2017

Noble: We need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot
WHUFC.com

Mark Noble says West Ham United need to learn how to manage games better if
they are to return to winning ways on a consistent basis. The Hammers have
lost Premier League five points from winning positions this season, allowing
Southampton, Burnley and Crystal Palace to net late goals, denying them a
deserved draw and two valuable victories. Last weekend, West Ham were 2-0 up
at half-time at Selhurst Park, only to concede twice after half-time - to a
penalty and last-gasp goal more than six minutes into added time - to enable
the Eagles to snatch a point.
Captain Noble knows such results could be costly in the long run and
encouraged his teammates to play with 'common sense' next time they carry an
advantage into the closing stages. "You can't make mistakes like we made at
Crystal Palace in the Premier League and expect to win matches, so we really
need to learn how to hold onto a lead because we're really shooting
ourselves in the foot," he said. "People talk about 'managing the game' and
a lot of it is common sense. We need to be able to see the time out by
slowing the play down and, in a way, get the opposition and their fans
feeling anxious. I don't think we have done that well enough this season."
West Ham return to Premier League action at London Stadium on Saturday, when
they host Liverpool in front of a live BT Sport audience at 5.30pm. Slaven
Bilic's side have lost just one of six meetings with the Reds over the
previous two seasons, but Noble knows the Hammers will need to be at their
best to defeat Jurgen Klopp's men for the fourth time in Liverpool's last
five visits to east London. "With where we are in the table, what happened
at Crystal Palace last weekend and the fact we go into the final
international break of the year after it, there is a massive motivation to
win Saturday's game. "Liverpool at home is a big game - it always is. We're
at home, we'll have the crowd behind us and we've got to roll our sleeves
up, look forward to the game and do the basics right."

Standard Tickets for Saturday's game are available via the Ticket Exchange
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West Ham 'a shambles', say pundits
KUMB.com
Filed: Tuesday, 31st October 2017
By: Staff Writer

Sky Sports duo Jamie Carragher and Phil Neville believe West Ham might be on
the way to the Championship having endured a poor start to the current
campaign.
The former Liverpool and Manchester United players tore into West Ham's
current set-up following the 2-2 draw at Crystal Palace on Saturday - and
suggesting that relegation could be on the cards as a result of having taken
just nine points from the opening 10 games. "There are a lot of teams down
the bottom of the league you could make a case for survival," said
Carragher. I'm struggling with West Ham. It's a shambles. "[Saturday's
game] will have felt like a defeat. Six players ahead of the ball and four
versus two at the back post. It is a disgrace that you find yourself in that
situation. "Then you see that in the last minute; you're fighting for your
lives against another rival and you've got people bombing forward to get a
goal and then jogging back. "West Ham are getting a little bit too close to
comfort to the teams we've slaughtered over the years. Your Sunderlands,
your QPRs. We watched them against Brighton and their application was really
poor.
"They're the team I would massively worry about in terms of relegation,
because it doesn't seem like there's much there. It looks a bit of a
shambles behind the scenes at times for me. It just seems like a lot of
players just thrown together without any real thought."

Meanwhile fellow pundit Neville also accused the players of faling to show
sufficient desire in the closing moments of the Selhurst Park draw. "When we
see this you point back to those teams, Sunderland, QPR, Aston Villa," he
added. "They make you sick to the pit of your stomach because it's a
privilege to play football, and the idea that you jog back, you don't run
back, at 2-1 up. "The manager is fighting for his life, the fans are all
there to run. It's unbelievable. That's where you become really critical and
you feel like it's a let down."

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Mark Noble urges West Ham to use 'common sense' ahead of Liverpool clash
By Nick Lustig
Last Updated: 31/10/17 2:22pm
SSN

Mark Noble insists West Ham must use "common sense" if they are to climb the
Premier League table. The Hammers have won only two of their opening 10
matches and currently sit just a point above the relegation zone in 16th
place. Winger Michail Antonio was heavily criticised for the part he played
in the build up to Crystal Palace's stoppage-time equaliser in Saturday's
2-2 draw at Selhurst Park, and Noble accepts West Ham have to improve their
game management. "You can't make mistakes like we made at Crystal Palace in
the Premier League and expect to win matches, so we really need to learn how
to hold onto a lead because we're really shooting ourselves in the foot," he
told the club's website. "People talk about 'managing the game' and a lot of
it is common sense. We need to be able to see the time out by slowing the
play down and, in a way, get the opposition and their fans feeling anxious.
I don't think we have done that well enough this season."
West Ham welcome Liverpool to London Stadium on Saturday and Noble concedes
the stakes will be high for his side ahead of the international break. "With
where we are in the table, what happened at Crystal Palace last weekend and
the fact we go into the final international break of the year after it,
there is a massive motivation to win Saturday's game," the 30-year-old
added. "Liverpool at home is a big game - it always is. We're at home, we'll
have the crowd behind us and we've got to roll our sleeves up, look forward
to the game and do the basics right."

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Jamie Carragher fears West Ham could go down after 'shambolic' final minutes
at Crystal Palace
Last Updated: 31/10/17 8:18am
SSN

On Monday Night Football, Jamie Carragher analysed the final few minutes at
Selhurst Park as West Ham dropped two points against Crystal Palace
Jamie Carragher described West Ham's application in the final few minutes at
Crystal Palace as a "shambles", and fears they could go down this season.
Slaven Bilic's side are just a point above the drop zone following their 2-2
draw with bottom side Crystal Palace on Saturday, despite being 2-0 up at
half-time.
On Monday Night Football, Carragher went on to analyse the final few minutes
at Selhurst Park, where West Ham twice lost the ball deep inside Palace's
half, with the second time resulting in Wilfried Zaha's last-gasp equaliser.
"There are a lot of teams down the bottom of the league you could make a
case for survival. I'm struggling with West Ham. "It's a shambles. Six
players ahead of the ball, again, the same situation, and there is four
versus two at the back post. That is a disgrace that you find yourself in
that situation. It will have felt like a defeat. "West Ham are getting a
little bit too close to comfort to the teams we've slaughtered over the
years. Your Sunderlands, your QPRs. We watched them, and it was really poor
against Brighton, their application, and then you see that, in the last
minute, you're fighting for your lives against another rivals, it's more
than three points, and you've got people bombing forward to get a goal and
then jogging back. "They're the team I would massively worry about in terms
of relegation, because it doesn't seem like there's much there. "It looks a
bit of a shambles behind the scenes at times for me. It just seems like a
lot of players just thrown together without any real thought."

Gary Neville echoed Carragher's words on MNF, saying the failure of certain
West Ham players in those final stages reminds him of previous relegated
Premier League sides. "When we see this, you point back to those teams,
Sunderland, QPR, Aston Villa. They make you sick to the pit of your stomach,
because it's a privilege to play football, and the idea that you jog back,
you don't run back at 2-1 up. "The manager is fighting for his life, the
fans are all there to run. It's unbelievable. That's where you become really
critical and you feel like it's a let down."

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West Ham players told to apologise to Hammers teammate after "shocking
decision-making"
Joe Hart will be frustrated with his teammates after they threw away three
points at Crystal Palace
Football London
Kevin Beirne
07:00, 31 OCT 2017

Garth Crooks believes that West Ham's outfield players should apologise to
Joe Hart after they threw away a 2-0 lead against Crystal Palace at the
weekend. The Hammers led thanks to goals from Javier Hernandez and Andre
Ayew as they looked on course for their first away win in the Premier League
this season. Hart kept Palace at bay with some spectacular goalkeeping but
for his teammates to make a series of errors to give the Eagles the
opportunity to share the points. First, Angelo Ogbonna gave away a silly
penalty before Michail Antonio lost possession ahead of Wilfried Zaha's
equaliser while searching a third goal deep into injury time instead of
playing the clock out. Considering Hart's contribution, Crooks says that the
pair should own up to their mistake and ask for their goalkeeper's
forgiveness. "It's not often I feel sorry for goalkeepers, but I felt for
Joe Hart after West Ham's draw at Crystal Palace. He deserved better from
his teammates," Crooks said in his team of the week column for the BBC.
"Goalkeepers are often the first to hold their hands up in the dressing room
when they have dropped a clanger, and I expect West Ham's players to
apologise to Hart after he made some fantastic saves and put the Hammers in
a great position to win the game.
"This should have been West Ham's first away victory of the season in the
league, and would have been had it not been for some shocking
decision-making by players who should have known better."

Things do not get any easier for the Hammers as they face Liverpool at the
London Stadium on Saturday.

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West Ham handed huge boost with key Liverpool trio set to miss London
Stadium clash
Both sides have injury problems to contend with ahead of Saturday
Football London

West Ham have been handed a boost with Liverpool set to be without attacking
trio Sadio Mane, Adam Lallana and Philippe Coutinho for Saturday's game at
the London Stadium. The visitors recorded a 4-0 win in the corresponding
fixture last season, but could find it more difficult this time around
without some of their key attacking players. Mane and Lallana are not likely
to return for the Reds until after the international break, while Brazilian
international Coutinho is a doubt with a hip problem which kept him out at
the weekend. If the former Inter Milan star misses out again, Jurgen Klopp
could stick with the same front three which started against Huddersfield -
Roberto Firmino and Mohamed Salah either side of Daniel Sturridge.
Meanwhile, Slaven Bilic could face a defensive crisis for Saturday, with
question marks hanging over three central defenders. James Collins, Winston
Reid and Jose Fonte could all miss out through injury, while Pablo Zabaleta
will be suspended after picking up his fifth yellow card of the season
against Crystal Palace. Collins and Reid both missed the dramatic 2-2 draw
at Selhurst Park, while Fonte limped off in the first half with a foot
complaint. If the trio fail to recover in time for next weekend, Bilic will
only have two recognised central defenders at his disposal - Angelo Ogbonna
and teenager Declan Rice. Speaking after Saturday's game, the Croatian
manager voiced his frustration at Wilfried Zaha's 97th minute equaliser. "In
the last couple of minutes we made some wrong decisions," he said. "All we
had to do is keep it but we didn't and that makes it frustrating.
"It was a positive week overall but we are gutted about the manner in which
we conceded the second goal."

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CAVIAR RATIONS AND CHICKEN AND CHIPS
By Tony Hanna 31 Oct 2017 at 08:00
WTID

In my Tuesday article last week I wondered whether Slav would still be in
charge at West Ham by the time I wrote this one? Two games supposedly to
save his job and a win and a draw have put in place a stay of (his
inevitable) execution. Make no mistake, he will be gone by seasons end and
this fact, paralleled with the continued recycling of two, three or four
match ultimatums is a cancer that can only be hindering our progress. All
this noise can only be a distraction that is totally unhelpful and heaps
more pressure on Bilic and his team when the best thing the owners could do
is offer full support or get rid. Last week, if you had offered me a win and
a draw from the two away games at Spurs and Palace I would have chewed your
arm off, especially after the debacle against Brighton. However, it was the
manner of how both games panned out that put emotions at the forefront
rather than the outcomes. In other words, if fans hadn't watched either game
and just looked at the results the following day they would probably be
quite happy. A win and a draw and five goals scored sounds pretty good. We
conceded four goals but hey, that is the type of stuff I can remember from
the 60's. But watch both games and dissect them and fans can come up with a
whole different array of opinions on where the team is heading.

All this comes at a time when we should still be on a high. As far as
Premier League standards go we have not exactly been an over achiever since
its conception. For most of my half a century of supporting the club we have
been average at best. Sometimes we have played beautiful football and still
got poor results. Just once in a while a season comes along where we win a
Cup, finish third in the League or have a Payet season. For the most the
rest has often been mediocre. But every now and again something happens that
brings everything together, something that elevates us way beyond our normal
expectations. Something we can revel in and remember for years. The comeback
against Spurs at Wembley was such an event. Yep, we were awful for a half
but you tell that to the thousands of West Ham fans that attended that game
at Wembley. You tell that to Adrian who ran seventy yards to celebrate our
third goal. Most fans would remember the 3-2 comeback win against Everton in
2016 as special? Fact is we played awful against ten men and it was only the
last 20 minutes that it all came together. But we put one over on our bogey
team that had for so long done the same to us. The manner of that comeback
against Spurs will probably be the best moment of our season and if that
disappoints you then perhaps you are not appreciating the real joy of being
a West Ham fan because things won't and normally don't get a lot better.

I was the youngest of a large family in the post war baby boomer era and
living on hand me downs was normal. Mum and dad both worked two jobs and
there still wasn't a lot of money for the grocery bill. We had a weekly menu
that never changed, fish fingers on Monday, rissoles on Tuesday, liver and
bacon on Wednesday and so on. Mum only ever had two bets a year, the Derby
and the Grand National, just a few shillings on each. One year when I was
about ten she backed the Derby winner at a good price. She bought the whole
family chicken and chips. Back in those days that was a real treat, believe
it or not. I still remember that day even now, over 50 years later because
it was special, something that elevated us all above our normal status. So,
enjoy the odd occasion of eating the caviar the supporters of the top clubs
take for granted all the time, because for us it is so much more special
when we get to eat it once or twice a year. Now I know we should be hoping
and wanting better and hopefully those days will come, but trust me, just
for now don't hold your breath. Even the Bubbles song we sing tells our own
story. I was fortunate enough to attend what was the highlight of last
season, again our win against Spurs. The win with an under strength team was
not pretty, but it secured our Premier League status. Had Spurs beaten us
that night it would have meant they won all of their final thirteen games
that season - that was how good they were at the time. What was as special
as the result though was how the OS rocked that night - the atmosphere was
intense. A week later I walked away from the same ground after a 4-0
drubbing from Liverpool and walked past a pub that was full of Hammers -
literally bouncing with beer flying everywhere. Why? They were still jumping
with joy and singing about how Tottenham had "stuffed" it up! They were
still eating caviar.

Our first and third goals on Wednesday can be attributed to corners won. I
haven't seen it reported anywhere, but I counted sixteen consecutive passes
in the movement leading to the first corner and fourteen consecutive passes
in the move leading to the other. This team CAN play on the floor when
Carroll is in the team. And so to the Palace fixture, again a game of two
halves which is so often the case. Two excellent goals put the game in our
pocket but this is West Ham. We don't do things easily and by the book. We
talk about West Ham DNA and one thing that always happens is we sit far too
deep and invite pressure when we have a lead. It is not something exclusive
under Bilic, it has been happening for years.

I read a lot of criticism regarding Antonio's final minute decision to not
take the ball to the corner flag. No argument there but there were many
other bad ones in the closing stages of the game. We had two break away
opportunities, both of which should have been converted to three on two
situations in the final fifteen minutes of the game. However, the player
with the ball on each occasion decided not to play the decisive pass and
instead slow the play down and waste time. We were negative beyond belief
such was the fear of the inevitable Palace equaliser instead of taking an
opportunity to put the game to bed . Ogbonna and Masuaku gave away a string
of unnecessary free kicks that just heaped more pressure on a very shaky
defence. I am sure Bilic would have brought on Andy Carroll to help out with
the aerial bombardment but the injury to Fonte pretty much forced his hand
to look to Rice. There is a fragility in this side and that often comes when
confidence is low. Not wanting the ball, fear of a mistake and hoping
someone else will pull you through, it all comes when you are down. We see
it every year with the bottom teams, they never get the breaks. Perhaps the
saying you make your own luck rings true? One player who has risen above
this in the last two games has been Andre Ayew. His work rate and enthusiasm
will hopefully rub off on some of his team mates?

This week Liverpool come to the OS. We were eating caviar when we won 3-0 at
Anfield two seasons ago. I was beginning to think I would never see the
Hammers win up there again in my lifetime. What a way to break the duck? Is
this week a defining moment of our season? I don't think so personally.
There is a long way to go and I am sure there will be plenty of twists and
turns. I am just wondering when the next serving of caviar is being served -
it is often when least expected.

My reference to caviar is for analogy purposes only - can't stand the stuff
personally

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Bristol Rovers suffer Checkatrade Trophy defeat as Toni Martinez nets brace
for West Ham
Darrell Clarke's side will take on Swindon Town in a winner takes all game
next Wednesday
Bristol Post
Jack Vittles
21:47, 31 OCT 2017

Bristol Rovers were defeated 3-1 by West Ham United Under 23s in their
second Checkatrade Trophy match despite Tom Nichols scoring for the Gas
after just 25 seconds. Coming almost from the kick-off, Marc Bola's initial
cross on the left hand side was blocked, but the ball came back to Byron
Moore who swung the ball towards the six-yard box. Nichols rose well to
flick the ball on towards the back post and it beat Hammers goalkeeper
Nathan Trott and nestled into the bottom corner of the net. After the
lightning start, the match settled down into a more sedate pace as the small
crowd made for an eerie atmosphere at the Memorial Stadium on a chilly
Halloween evening. The Hammers picked up a goal either side of the half time
break, before Toni Martinez grabbed a third 15 minutes from full time.
Martinez fired home from the penalty spot for the opener before Martin
Samuelson scored the second. The penalty was conceded by Ryan Broom as he
was adjudged to have tripped Hammers left-back Ben Johnson. The full-back
was sprinting away from Broom, and while the contact looked minimal, if
there was any contact at all it had to be a penalty. Many Rovers fans close
to the action however appeared incensed at what they perceived as a dive
from Johnson. Samuelson's goal came courtesy of some head tennis in the
Rovers box as the Gas failed to clear a cross, Dan Leadbitter clearing the
ball off the line before Norwegian international Samuelson fired home from
about eight yards out to leave Sam Slocombe with no chance. West Ham looked
the better side in the second half and tested Slocombe on a number of
occasions before Martinez picked up his second. The Spaniard beating
Slocombe with a tidy finish to continue his recent good form after a
hat-trick against Manchester United in a Premier League 2 clash earlier this
month. Before their equaliser West Ham hardly threatened Slocombe's goal.
Martinez had an effort from the edge of the box held easily by the Rover
goalkeeper, before Nathan Holland fired a ball across the six-yard area.
For Rovers, Dom Telford came closest to finding a second before the break as
a mistake from Domingos Quina allowed Broom to launch a counter attack. His
ball to Telford was a little behind him though, and the Stoke man had to cut
back in on his left foot - his shot was comfortably saved by Trott. The West
Ham stopper was part of the England Under 19 side which romped to victory in
the European Championships this summer, but looked jittery for the most part
at the Mem. For large parts, West Ham lived up to their billing as a Premier
League academy side, playing plenty of tidy possession based football but
unwilling to take a risk with a more direct final ball. Trott - and the back
four in front of him - were insistent playing ball out from the back and it
got them into a pickle more than once as Rovers pressed high up the pitch.
Aside from the two goals, the second half passed largely without incident as
Rovers introduced their development players from the bench.
The second half was actually delayed by five minutes as the 1,500 in the
stand and the 22 players on the pitch were all made to wait as the
groundsman taped up a hole in one of the goal nets. Rovers had rung the
changes ahead of the match, with just Dan Leadbitter, Stuart Sinclair and
Tom Nichols retaining their places from the victory against MK Dons. Central
midfielder Luke Russe also made his full Rovers debut, and turned in a tidy
performance in the centre of the park.
The Gas bench saw a welcome return for young centre-back Alfie Kilgour, who
has been out injured for almost a year, alongside six development squad
players.

Next up for Rovers is Notts County away in the FA Cup first round, before
they return to Checkatrade Trophy action at the Mem against Swindon Town
next Wednesday.

Bristol Rovers: Slocombe; Leadbitter, Burn, Sweeney, Bola, Broom, Russe,
Sinclair, Moore (Hargreaves 66), Telford, Nichols (Dunwald 66)
Unused subs: Andre Jr, Kilgour, Menayese, Kelly, Kavanagh

West Ham U23s: Trott; Pike, Johnson, Rice, Pask, Quina, Covenry,
Haksabanovic (Kemp), Holland, Samuelson (Diangana), Martinez (Hector-Ingram
90)
Unused subs: Powell, Scully, Wells, Longelo
Scorers: Nichols 25, Martinez 43, 76, Samuelson 50,
Referee: Robert Jones
Attendance: 1,508 (172 away)

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West Ham Come From Behind to Defeat Rovers
Bristol Rovers 1-3 West Ham United
Bristolrovers.co.uk

Tom Nichols goal inside the opening minute was cancelled out by a Toni
Martinez brace and a strike from Martin Samuelson. Tom Nichols managed to
head home just twenty-five seconds into the encounter, as the striker
managed to find room inside a congested area to head home a Byron Moore
cross to give Rovers an early advantage in the tie. The visitors scored a
late equaliser in the first-half from the penalty spot, as Ryan Broom
conceded a penalty for a foul on Ben Johnson. Toni Martinez dispatched the
spot-kick to bring the Hammers back level before the break.

Following the interval, Martin Samuelson drove home a finish from
close-range to put West Ham ahead, after a loose ball pinballed around the
Rovers six-yard box.
Toni Martinez added his second goal of the game with fifteen minutes to go,
as West Ham secured victory in the tie. In naming the squad for the
encounter, Manager Darrell Clarke opted to hand a first start to young Luke
Russe, as the youngster was chosen to play along Stuart Sinclair in the
heart of the Rovers midfield Sinclair took the armband for the evening, as
Ryan Broom and Byron Moore were tasked working the opposite wings for the
evening. Jonny Burn also made a return to action, as the centre-back was
paired with Ryan Sweeney in Rovers back-four. The game was only twenty-five
seconds old when Rovers took the lead. A well-worked cross into a congested
area from Byron Moore was headed into the net by Tom Nichols, as the striker
scored his second goal in four days to put Rovers ahead early on.
Following the goal, the first-half didn't produce that the chances that
early goal suggested it would. Sam Slocombe had to be alert to a long-range
effort from Conor Covenry, which did move quite considerably through the
night sky but didn't trouble the Rovers shot-stopper. A quick purposeful run
from Ryan Broom sliced open the West Ham defence midway through the
first-half, but after finding Dom Telford on the edge of the area, the
striker's effort couldn't beat West Ham 'keeper Nathan Trott, as he looked
place an effort inside the far-post. Nathan Holland was lively for the
visitors and managed to rob possession off Daniel Leadbitter down the right,
as the defender was fortunate that his error didn't get punished, as
Holland's pacy cross into the area narrowly missed Toni Matinez at the far
post
West Ham restored balance to the scoreline just minutes before the break.
Ryan Broom was judged to have fouled Ben Johnson inside the box after the
pair collided at speed. Toni Martinez took the resulting spot-kick and held
his nerve to send Sam Slocombe the wrong way to bring West Ham back level.
Just five minutes after the break, West Ham took the lead. Following a
bouncing ball inside the Rovers area, Martin Samuelson was on hand to rocket
home a low finish after Rovers failed to clear their lines, as Samuelson's
shot nestled into the bottom corner. Darrell Clarke replaced Nichols and
Broom with Dunnwald and Cameron Hargreaves just past the hour mark, as
Rovers looked to bring the scores back level. It West Ham who forged an
opportunity to extend their lead further, as Toni Martinez broke in behind
the Rovers back-four and connected with a forcefully struck right-footed
attempt. Sam Slocombe was quick to adjust his feet to deal with the
striker's effort, diving to push Martinez's effort around the post. Martinez
did get his second goal of the game in the 75th minute, scoring from a tight
angle to beat Sam Slocombe in a one-on-one situation, as West Ham took all
three points on offer.

Rovers now face Swindon Town next Wednesday at the Mem in their final group
stage fixture.

Rovers: Sam Slocombe, Daniel Leadbitter, Jonny Burn, Ryan Sweeney, Marc
Bola, Stuart Sinclair (C), Luke Russe, Ryan Broom (65' Cameron Hargreaves),
Byron Moore, Tom Nichols (65' Dunwald), Dom Telford.
Substitutes: Alexis Andre-Jr, Alfie Kilgour, Rollin Menayese, Cameron
Hargreaves, Michael Kelly, Kenan Dunwald, Rhys Kavanagh.

West Ham: Nathan Trott, Sead Haksabanovic (72' Daniel Kemp), Toni Marinez
(90' Jahmal Hector-Ingram), Domingos Quina, Nathan Holland, Josh Pask, Alex
Pike, Martin Samuelson (72' Grady Diangana), Declan Rice, Ben Johnson, Conor
Coventry.


Substitutes: Joe Powell, Anthony Scully, Ben Wells, Rosaire Longelo.

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